I have wondered if I really heard this, but after reading the other accounts on this site I am sure I did. I may have only been five, but youd think I would remember the sound of the explosion or the sirens, considering that my mom and I were at the church adjacent to the school when the DC-7 came down. {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 The impact tossed me through the air and I landed in a hot smoking oil slick. As soon as it disappeared on the horizon a large black plume of smoke appeared. But every life is an interesting story that deserves to be told and remembered. June 15, 2015 at 7:15 am. Hopefully, we can wring something positive out of a terrible tragedy. About 80 students stood in the schoolyard transfixed, watching the plane hurtle toward them. Its right side engine and possibly wing was on fire. That my blog performed such a solid, useful service in de-troubling him will definitely put a little more strut in my step. Here are 22 essential L.A. spots for every tourist, Column: We cant afford another writers strike. Thank you for providing this history and a media for those who remember to express those memories. Three students and . Not to mention, the words Pacoima Crash intrigued the hell out of me. Thanks to Gary and Russ. Its crazy how she just said we have one life to live right before it happened. Missing that day was pop star Ritchie Valens. She said she ran onto the playground and there was chaos apparently parts of the aircraft were still falling. Yeah, a few other commenters wrote about either being sprayed with hot oil or seeing other kids covered with the stuff I wonder if they were remembering seeing your uncle. Two students were struck and killed by this wreckage and debris. RB, Russ, thanks for sharing. I have your email address here. I remember looking out the window of the classroom that overlooked the field of the junior high. Its been a while since I was in the LA school system. You and mom said even less. The program we developed is known as START (Simple Triage And Rapid Transport). Eight months after this crash, our family of four boarded a Northwest Orient Airlines DC-7 to fly to Japan where we moved to live for four years. Wreckage was still on fire, strewn everywhere, having slammed into fences, backstops, basketball hoops, and, of course, children, who lay everywhere, burned and bleeding from gashes too grisly to comprehend. I dont recall your Dad, but may well have had him as a teacher. I thought I might be able to click and drag it to the comment section but that didnt work. After that I spent time reading some of the other comments and read what Richard Berger had posted. My sister, who was a friend of Evan Elsners, told me today that our parents, John and Eleanor Buchanan, attended Ronnies memorial service. At 11:18 a.m., one moved into a wide turn 25,000 feet above the San Fernando Valley. The system integrates with Urban Search And Rescue (USAR) teams, Hazardous Materials (HazMat) teams, High rise firefighting operations, law enforcement operations, and any other operations that may be occurring at the same time. Thank you for your recollection. Hell, even in the mid-60s I remember drilling at Beachy Elementary (near PJHS) sometimes we would even drop-and-cover along with the air-raid sirens the last Friday of every month (I guess the teachers thought the sirens brought a little realism production value to the whole thing). I checked google maps and found that my cousin lived about 17 miles away from the crash. I was in the auditorium (in the orchestra) as the soon to be graduates were rehearsing. I am so thankful the plane did not crash into the auditorium as the disaster would have been even more tragic. I saw one boy on fire. I find it interesting that he is walking solo through the crash site. It wasnt exactly the way I remembered it, but it was there. Valens was killed in a plane crash two years later, along with fellow rock 'n' rollers Buddy Holly and The Big Bopper as well as pilot Roger Peterson, when their chartered Beechcraft Bonanza crashed near Mason City, Iowa, late at night of February 3, 1959. If you mean Pacoima Junior, I saw it a few years ago and it still looks like the fine learning institution we knew. Back then, my dad moonlighted as a news broadcaster at KGIL and, I believe, one of the radio network affiliates. As fate was with us, it probably would have decapitated several of us. A little detour here. Windows and room walls were rattling and shaking. Pretty amazing, considering that today that same brain cant even remember where it put its keys. By then, I was really hanging on to the fence. When I connected Richards name with the picture I remember him. Within minutes we knew that it had been an airplane that crashed into Pacoima Jr. High School. Always good to hear from a fellow Beachy-ite. Many found it very disturbing, which was good because they then had to go to work just like in real life. Jul 6, 2018 | Lance Geiger, Show More Support The History Guy If you love history, this is the channel to support! Thank God for that. I didnt have a WordPress account at the time I was trying to listen last week. My mom moved me to the other end of the valley because of the violence. Youve got the right Russell. I realized I was only 3 years old. You know, I think you just might be on to something here. He never forgot the sight he saw the rest of his life. I dont recall my parents reaction to the crash. It still looks pretty darned good. Recently, I added the story of the Pacoima Junior High School plane crash, and profiled the eight people who were killed, using newspaper archives and websites like yours to tell their stories. For some god-forsaken reason, my mother scooped me and a my baby brother up, and we headed for the sight of the explosion. In fact, Id be surprised if lots of kids and teachers on and near the campus didnt believe the same thing initially. Two years after the Pacoima disaster, Valens was killed along with his fellow performers and tour mates, J.P. Big Bopper Richardson and Buddy Holly when their light plane crashed near Clear Lake, Iowa. She said the plane crash and the neighborhood were in the movie. He had a true survivors spirit. This scene was horrific seeing your classmates injured and scared. {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red0\green0\blue0;\red235\green235\blue228;} But he NEVER complains or asks why me?This recording is riveting. The episode title is "Heaven Is In The Sky." We often walked home together from Pacoima Junior High. The post Does the Harvard Kennedy School Serve the Peopleor Power? Unfortunately it was not well publicized and many more would have like to attend. Interesting you said Wollensak.I can still see the cover of that reel to reel tape and it was 3M. I dont have any memories of the actual crash but two people said they saw me running so I know I was awake for part of it. Arleta/Pacoima will ALWAYS be my home. With the help of other Paramedics, Nurses, Physicians, Fire Chiefs, private ambulance companies, and other Orange County Agencies, the plan is in place and several Mass Casualty Drills are put on every year. Ill never forget the confusion, fear, and terror I felt. I can only imagine the horrors and the sadness you witnessed that day. injuries. The elementary school was next to Pacoima Junior HIgh. I dont remember hearing the explosion but I ran over to the windows and remember seeing the black smoke and a lot of debris twirling in the air. Upon arriving at the base, I guess he had a lot of explaining to do, because I sat in the jeep for a long time. I hoped these Pacoima pages might have cathartic value for some readers, and it seems that they have. I am rather dismayed to see that you have removed my post. I remember your father as an extremely nice man. I plan to visit the site, hopefully in the afternoon of June 4. Yes, not only do people remember that day, but it seems to be etched in the memory of many. Most Fire and Police Departments, and EMS agencies have adopted post incident stress debriefing or counseling programs (late 1970s). The learning curve is steep but if I get the hang of it, the tape will add a great deal to the training by making it much more realistic and that is a very crucial element with these type of drills. Thanks for this historic artifact. Dad used to tell me that he thought Valens(uela) was very talented and was always trying to get him to leave the band he performed with and go solo. The sound was a whisper at first and then it starting getting louder and louder and louder. Your Dad was one of my favorite teachers! If you like history too, this is the channel for you.Subscribe for more forgotten history: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4sEmXUuWIFlxRIFBRV6VXQ?sub_confirmation=1.Awesome The History Guy merchandise is available at:https://teespring.com/stores/the-history-guyScript by THG#aviation #thehistoryguy #california Thank you, Mr. Buchanan. The Pacoima Mid-Air Collision. I remember January 31, 1957, like it was yesterday. Men were working on jets in different states of repair. The Theatre of the Mind 8.7K subscribers CBS Radio Workshop "Heaven is in the Sky" 1957 Pacoima Plane Crash A documentary look at the January 31, 1957 mid-air collision of a DC-7B and a. I was told to leave and I started to run home. It was very low. Again, thanks for your comment and interest, Thanks for sharing Russ, wow amazing to read and hear the recording. After reading the information I guess I was amazed at the life experiences especially involving the military that he had already accumulated when I knew him. Yeah, putting up this Pacoima crash page has proved to be an amazing experience. I asked where this was and she said, Pacoima Junior High School. Then she just started talking. I remember Evan Elsner, but I did not know him. Thanks for commenting. Hi, Dave Your recording sounds like a graduation, but wanted to try and sort out the other report of an awards ceremony, and special assembly in the auditorium of the school. Where are the pictures of this event? It sounds like you saw what I saw the falling metallic confetti which is just about all I remember from that day (I was the same age as you). Also, you might be interested in the Then and Now site about the crash. I hope your visit back to the homeland proves to be a great time. I was afraid that survivors who had been trying their whole lives to get passed that day would be plunged right back in it by hearing the sounds again. Hey Rusty, I always thought it would have been kinda fun to be in his class. An estimated 75 more students on the school playground suffered critical and minor injuries. Thanks to those who have shared their thoughts here. Today is the 57th anniversary of the plane crash; I think about it every January 31st. My physical injuries were minor, my clothes and jacket kept me from getting burned by the hot oil. Im now 63, born in 1952. I was able to talk to her about it a couple more times. I was a little hesitant to post it at first because I didnt want to remind the families of that horrible day in such a real way. His friend, Richard Berger, was not as lucky and got severe burns over much of his back and legs. I was on the field when the DC7 came down. Hello Phyllis, I was in the auditorium getting ready to graduate.LInda Lutrell was a very good friend of mine.I will never forget that day and just now listened to the recording.I was shocked at my reaction to it.I went to grade school and Jr. High with Linda and wouod love to connect with her again,its been years..My name then was Lana Brosamle.Linda was in our little group of girls.Pat Cox, Dorothy Alexander, Marlene Sherman. I do remember seeing shiny pieces of metal falling from the sky, though. (sp) Street? July 12, 1963: Curtiss A. Adams, the only man to survive the Jan. 31, 1957, crash of an F-89J and a DC-7B over Pacoima, testifies in a lawsuit between Douglas, which made the transport, and Northrop, which built the F-89J. I was born in 52 and started at Beachy when I was six. I remember dad once said (and I mean only once he rarely talked about that day) something about having to either identify or tend to (I cant remember which) a boy who had sustained a horrible head injury. Thanks again for posting as I commented once before. I was friends with Pam and I remember Karen Bakken as well. IIt was making a screaming noise and then I heard a crash. Im going through new comments now and I should have his up in a few minutes. Stephanie Hoenig Reifsnyder. At 11:18 a.m., while the aircraft were performing their test operations over the San Fernando Valley, one of the F-89s collided with the Douglas DC-7B. My mom and dad were friends with Mr. and Mrs. Elsner from Wisconsin days. My mother saved all documents, including an envelope with my Dads personal effects that he wore the day of the crash. Thank God she made it back safely. We both got in trouble for running outside but I didnt care. Hi, Alan I am a man now, not a kid. When I got out I found that my parents had arranged to move to Palmdale, Ca. I remember, like so many others that have written, the pieces of metal, bolts and whatever the pieces are of an exploded plane falling all around. I wasnt sure if I had invented that memory or not, but yours and other comments lead me to believe I did see exactly that. He lived just a couple of streets over from where we lived. If anyone knows, please write. I looked across to the other building and saw a teacher named Mr. Snyder. Hi Jill Pam often checks in to read the latest comments here. Stubborn bastard haha. We were able to leave the classroom to go to the bathroom. Your old neighborhood brought up memories for me. The Scorpion burst into flames. I just checked it on my iPad and it played fine. As I was running, I saw the kids trying to climb the fence, the fires, the screaming, and some of the injured. The post Changes Everything appeared first on The Nation. Women and men wept openly and copiously. My cousin, Ronnie Brann, died that day. I like that guy. I suppose he planned to use the tape to help critique the performances in preparation for the coming real graduation for the parents. He said something about getting back to the Base because he hadnt checked out. It made me think of the crews that had responded to the real thing in Pacoima. just let me know. Terry Brown (916) 364 0440. He was not happy with my behavior. And, second, several years later at a reunion, Richard Williams told me he saw me get hit in the head. Part of an engine crashed through the roof of the church auditorium, smashing windows and destroying that building. Paul Morse, who passed away a few years ago, was a very close friend of my family. A few months ago I was listening to the recording for the zillionth time, and decided to put it up on the blog. Then, when I got to Pacoima Jr. High the drills just stopped. My dad had Richie Valens in one of his classes and remembered him fondly. If so, did you learn the identity of the teacher aiding the injured student? Even though I never met Evan, I grew up hearing about what happened. As horrible as it was for the badly injured and, of course, the surviving families, had the plane slammed into the auditorium, with you, your mom, my father and a few hundred other souls inside, the devastation would have been too awful to imagine. Hope this clears up a question of rotary ect. My classroom was located adjacent to the fence that separated the two schools. If any reader happens to know what exactly was going on in the auditorium at the time of the crash, please write. Johnny and I were friends and I remember having dinner with your family. and Beachy. Ill be back soon. thousand pieces of metal falling from Another boy beat out the flames with his leather jacket. . Mondaire Jones The ousting of two Black Democrats from the Tennessee House of Representatives makes clear that the US urgently needs to salvage and rebuild a true multiracial democracy. For weeks after the crash there were people on the field, on hands and knees, picking up pieces of the wreckage. The last transmission from the co-pilot was from Archie Twitchell, an uncle of mine. I was assigned a family with a 16 year old girl who had run away from home. Thank you, Russ, for continuing in your efforts. Background [ edit] You were certainly an adventurous and inquisitive fourth-grader, werent you. Everyone ran to the window to see and the teacher was trying to keep us in our seats. We saw the plane actually come down and crash in the gym field.A huge billowing cloud of Black smoke and orange fire Lit up inside of our classroom. His sister and the rest of the Boyd/Brann family remember him with love. Compared to the tape, the real thing probably seemed like an eternity. Hi, my name is Shirley Kathryne Johnson Binkley.. Im picturing Mr. Snyder hurling you back inside the classroom man, what a day! I remember, we used to have drop drills at Beachy Elementary often. I remember hearing a tape of the crash that the music teacher, Mr Morse, had. Hi, James thanks for commenting. I remember how scared my brother and I were, I still can vividly see that that plane crashing. (LogOut/ Fire, kids screaming, people from the neighborhood filling the school yard, emergency vehicles trying to get in. I read that the school does not have any kind of monnoument or something about the accident, which i think is a shame, couse even though such memories are hard to remember i think they should be remembered for the safety of children in the future, i think the school should definitely not just try to push the memories away and try to forget, because. Several times she came back to a pair of shoes. My first band spent many hours in a Mission Hills garage learning how to play and annoying the neighbors. Hey Bill If you mean Beachy, I dont know. I was playing outside. May they Rest In Peace. Like Randal said, I did not know where it crashed till I got home. Thanks for the opportunity. I went to Sa Jose St school and was in the 5th grade. I forgot to mention in the story that the adjacent church was my familys church. Since you obviously have a much more personal connection to the story and the events of that day, Id like to know what you think of my version, and if you or anyone else involved has any comments, corrections or suggestions. I looked up and to this day could swear that some one in the nose of that spinning plane was waving their arms. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B transport plane crashed into the school yard of Pacoima Junior High School, 9919 Laurel Canyon Boulevard, after colliding with a Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet trainer plane. Joseph, I knew your great uncle, Vito Galasso. On that particular day, I was home with a cold. I saw it all and it has haunted me all my life. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7Boperated by Douglas Aircraft Companywas involved in a mid-air collisionwith a United States Air ForceNorthrop F-89 Scorpionand crashed into the schoolyard of Pacoima Junior High Schoollocated in Pacoima, a suburban area in the San Fernando Valleyof Los Angeles, California. I was in the class with Mr. Snyder are you on facebook contact me. Russ Ive read this from your website and only now listened to the recording My God.. I felt connected to the terrible history. I had just turned five on the 16th of January and the plane flew right over me, raining down some sort of metallic confetti. I still remember seeing a great deal of plane parts scattered across the gym field. (And I hope you dont mind that I included a link to your page.). At some point at Madison Jr. HS (1967-1969), I was responsible for managing those loudspeaker announcements we use to have to sit through in homeroom. After assuring the young ladys safety and involvement in counseling, I turned my attention to the broader family issues. I took my turn. Hell, I was only in the 4th grade, I had watched the movies, but this was nothing like the movies, this was real. Many Pacoima JH alums have commented there. I was injured in the plane crash and would like to talk with others who remember what happened.I dont. Here it is in 2012 and we still talk about it. As it completed the turn, the jet slammed into the wing of a DC-7B transport plane returning to Douglas Aircrafts Santa Monica plant on a routine test run. Terrifying moments seem to go by in slo-mo. I was at my friend Pattis house, playing with her Moms box of buttons on the living room floor. The next thing I remember is the crash. I was doing some research on this so thanks for posting the information. Thank you. However, I figured with so many years having passed it would be alright. A large plane in flames was heading straight down and the impact was quite loud to us. I read that some of Valenss friends were killed when that plane touched down. Some dived to the ground; others were running when the blast of debris overtook them. Hiya, tabiventure AKA Ronnies Cousin (I apologize if I did know your name but forgot it) . The only memories I have of the day were the metal bits raining down and my very nervous mother (my sister and father were both on campus when the plane came down). See more from the Los Angeles Times archives here. The plane crash last month wasn't the first for Pacoima residents. There was a tree planted to honor each of the boys that were killed. to tell us that our father, William (Bill) Carr had died in a plane crash. If youre still having difficulty with it, let me know and Ill talk to WordPress about it.w. As a Pacoima alum, I remember there were many fire boxes (break glass, pull lever) throughout the school. Since Id missed most of the 7th grade in Pacoima I had to start over in the 7th in Palmdale. The sound is a little different than I remember as the screaming of the plane fell to the ground. Debris on the Pacoima Junior High School Athletic Field A few minutes after 11:00 AM on January 31, 1957, teacher John Buchanan began recording the graduation ceremony being held for 800 students gathered in the San Fernando Valley's Pacoima Junior High School auditorium. Accident I was only seven years old when this crash happened, and it has stuck with me all of my life. I was a student at Beachy Avenue School that day of 1/31/1957. I was at school in La Crescenta doing sit ups out in our school field when we all saw smoke and the planes falling right after impact. I was in Drafting class next to the gymnasium and was knocked off my stool by the crash. Russ, I was just looking through the blog again for familiar names (I wrote my memories earliert). I think we played poker a lot. Id never heard of him before. My family moved to the west side of Pacoima so I wasnt able to attend PJH until 1960. John Vardanian was a PE teacher and track coach at Poly High at least through 1967 when I graduated. I havent seen it in years. He was very talented and I think his girlfriend was Wendy Peysar. A part of the plane actually did land in the middle of the church, but no one was hurt. That led me to your site and all of the information everyone has added as comments. The May 19, 1957 episode of The CBS Radio Workshop ("The Theater of the Mind") was a discussion of this crash, including interviews with people who were witnesses and/or affected by the crash, including Ronnie Brann's mother and a close friend. She lived right on across the street from the school. I remember watching the news that evening, and one of the Mothers of one of the boys killed was crying and said I didnt even kiss him goodbye this morning This interview was on TV. I apologize. Another part of the story is that Russ and our mom had been at the Pacoima Congregational Church, just next door to PJH, earlier that morning. An incredible bonding experience that lasted 50 years or more after graduation from high school. Jan. 31, 1957 was a tragic day in the northern San Fernando Valley. My brother Marvin and sister Delores were at the school and my sister was in the auditorium at the time of the crash. Bill Ritchie, Photo no longer up, but I made paper photo copy of picture and sent to wordpress.com website for research purposes. The crash sent the transport plunging on a path o. I sent him an email link to your site to see if he remember it. But strangely, that is all I remember. On the other hand, I hoped it might serve as a catharsis you know, lose the fear by confronting it. I am devastated by the deaths and injuries but so thankful that there were not more. I was sure it was a Russian rocket attack because of the mushroom cloud that climbed into the sky after the plane hit the ground. Heres why thats wrong. I had found a picture of Pam B. and 3 friends at HER Pacoima Jr High grad day, June of 1959 and brought it to the reunion with me. I have read that there are laws against testing flights obove populated areas and that they must be tested over sea. Im glad I was down, because there was an engine embedded in the asphalt 25 feet away in the same direction I was running. My brother was terrified of flying his entire life. Valens was not at school that day because he was attending the funeral of his grandfather. One of my Facebook friends living in Dahlonega, GA posted an article about the plane crash that killed Ritchie Valens. All four crew members of the DC-7 died in the crash, as did the pilot of the F-89. 1957 Pacoima California Mid-Air Collision The History Guy remembers a mid-air collision between two planes flying test flights over a California city and its connection to Ritchie Valens. It would strictly be for my own use I wouldnt post it or use it in any other public way. Since I went to Pacoima 64-67, I missed him too. I wanted to let you know that we had our disaster drill 2 weeks ago and the recording really caught people off guard. I read that many people wrote that the school has done nothin to remember the accident, and i want to really tell you Russ Buchanan what a great thing you are doing. Hey just a BIG hello, I was in your class too, and was in the auditorium with you, I think its interesting you are in Duluth Minn. thats where I was born and lived until we came to Pacoima, Ca. 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